FamilyGuy

Self-employed - proof of work experience

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FamilyGuy
Hi all,
 
Apologies in advance as this is a bit long winded :) Please bear with me if possible as I'd really appreciate some direction from anyone with knowledge or experience in the matter.
 
I've been a computer programmer since 2006. My work experience covers 3 companies, one of them I owned myself. So technically, or at least I like to think, I have been working under NOC 2174 for the past 14 years.
 
My current employment has been since 2011 November, previous to that I worked for myself (owned a CC). The business itself was an e-commerce website but I developed and maintained the site myself which was more than 50% of the actual work I did. I would like to claim the time I worked as software developer, albeit for a company I owned, as NOC 2174.
 
With the above in mind I have concerns relating to following areas of our immigration process:
  1. SINP EOI
    1. I am currently wanting to put forward my SINP EOI, which awards points depending how many of the last 10 years you have worked under the NOC you are wanting to apply under. Has anyone managed to prove work experience as a business owner under a role they fulfilled under a different NOC (like 2174 or other professional services one may be able to render when running their own business?)
  2. IRCC Express Entry ITA application thereafter
    1. Assuming we are awarded the SINP PNP points the Express Entry pool application asks whether you have "3 years or more" foreign work experience in a single NOC (assuming this is the NOC you are applying under. Given my current employment spans the last 8 years does this mean I can simply remove the other work experience in our EE application? In other words, are they only interested in your last 3 years of employment? Or if I do need to have my entire employment history and since CIC website says you may not self declare your work duties for when you are self-employed ("self-declared main duties or affidavits are not acceptable proof of self-employed work experience") how would I prove my NOC 2174 duties for that period? Note: Because I ran an e-commerce website my customers won't be able to validate that I was a computer programmer since that role was only visible internally within the company (I worked on my own so don't have anyone who could validate it that way).
 
If you've stuck with me up to here, thanks, I know it's a bit of a convoluted story :D
 
My main concern is that I don't want to put anything on our SINP EOI or EE profile that I cannot prove and might cause my application to be rejected. My other concern is if I can't prove my work experience under the 2174 NOC for SINP I don't get full points for that area which might mean we wait substantially longer (or simply do not get chosen) for the SINP ITA.
 
Thanks,
Mike  
 

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FamilyGuy

From the lack of response I'm assuming this is an edge case not many have had to find a solution for. I've posted similar on a Facebook group specifically dealing with SINP and also didn't get any answers there.

So for SINP EOI we have decided to just claim for the 8 years for now and look to getting a job offer to bolster points.

For the EE application case would still appreciate some insight regarding whether we need to specify and prove employment which is further in the past than the previous 3 years? How far back do you actually need to go?

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Deirdre

Hi @FamilyGuy

I have asked alot of questions on here with no reply :(

Type SINP in the search engine on this website - there are loads of SINP post and tag members directly that completed SINP

 

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FamilyGuy

@Deirdre thanks for the suggestion. I did a search before posting, 30 min cursory check to see if anyone asked something similar before. Let me roll up my sleeves and dig a bit deeper :) 

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