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Increasing CRS scores

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Carla111

Hi guys.  

We have done a mock test to calculate our scores, and although me and my husband both have degrees and are highly proficient in english, the mock scores are very low compared to what we would need to be picked out of the pool.  Any tips on how we can make our scores higher within a short amount of time, and a limited budget?

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MaryJane

Hi @Carla111

There are a couple of ways to increase your CRS. Although I don’t think any of them can be done in a short amount of time, but here goes.

One option is to watch for the PNPs. Provinces select candidates based on adaptability and other factors. You have to be persistent and patient though as applicants become very competitive in getting a nomination. Getting provincial nomination will give you an additional 600 points.

Another option is to have arranged employment. Convince an employer to hire you and present you with a job offer. Very doable but sometimes can be a little hard to do, especially if your line of work is not specialised.  That’s between 50-200 additional points, depending on the position and the NOC it falls under.

Third option might be to study further. I’m assuming here that you and your spouse may only have the degree. It adds points to have a second degree, certificate, etc. However, I always feel that this is a counter productive option. You need to at least study a year’s worth, but by the time you finish, you are a year older so aging reduces 5 points from your total. You may also have to spend some serious money in getting another certificate, degree, diploma, etc.

Perhaps you can tell us where your low score areas are? What is your current CRS score? This may help us suggest more options.

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Carla111

Thankyou so much for the infomation.

Can you maybe tell me more about the nomination option?  Is there something I need to fill in?

We are also busy seeing if we can get a job offer, holding thumbs.

 

 

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MaryJane

Most provinces will have their own selection criteria and process. Some want you to be in certain field of work, some want you to have a job offer, some want you to have a connection in the province, etc. Some provinces will have their own "draws" too.

 The painstaking portion is finding the right province or rather the right PNP stream that will get you the nomination.

Here is the website link to how PNP works. https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/provincial-nominees/works.html 

At the bottom, you will find the links to the diffferent provinces and their streams. You will have to go through each one to see which will work for you.

Good luck!

 

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Nelline

@Carla111 there's a group on Facebook called South Africans in Atlantic Canada (Maritimes)

There's quite a lot of information shared on there about the AIPP (Atlantic Immigration Pilot Programme) and a number of members have successfully immigrated to Canada via this route. It boils down to getting a job offer from a company "designated" under the AIPP which, in summary, means the employee does not need a Work Permit or LMIA.

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NW18
6 hours ago, Nelline said:

@Carla111 there's a group on Facebook called South Africans in Atlantic Canada (Maritimes)

There's quite a lot of information shared on there about the AIPP (Atlantic Immigration Pilot Programme) and a number of members have successfully immigrated to Canada via this route. It boils down to getting a job offer from a company "designated" under the AIPP which, in summary, means the employee does not need a Work Permit or LMIA.

I agree that this would be the most favorable move forward as all other ways would take much longer.

 

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Carla111

thanks so much for all the feedback guys, this has helped alot.

 

 

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CDR

Hi All and thank you to everyone for sharing.

I want to test my understanding and also have a few questions. Please bear with me. Here goes for my understanding:

The first prize is to get PR through Federal CRS. If your score is unlikely to be inside the draw cut-off compared to recent draws, then the EE PNP would be the logical next step. You will need to complete a Federal profile anyway together with the PNP profile. In most cases you will need a valid job offer to apply for PNP. If you do not qualify for EE PNP, then the "manual" PNP might be the next option. (not sure if this also requires a Federal profile).

Now for our situation: We want to settle in BC due to family being there and both me and my wife's occupations being on the priority list of BC. We have completed IELTS. Our age is starting to count against us progressively now and we have a similar CRS profile, except age difference which gives my wife's profile the edge. So, this seems to be a balancing act of giving yourself enough time inside the pool, but also maximizing the time you are both looking for a job. Then the first to find a job would then be the primary applicant. The 600 points for a valid job offer for PNP or even the 50 points for Federal should guarantee ITA for us. Also not to wait too along due to the age factor and give yourself enough time inside the pool. My understanding is the 1 year inside the pool starts the day you create your profile for both Federal and PNP. 

A few questions:

1. Is this understanding of mine correct and any suggestions to improve on our approach ?

2. Will you get points awarded even before completing tests and credentials, but will have to supply proof within about a month of receiving ITA and will loose it if you cannot provide the proof on time, or will points only be allocated when proof is received?

3. What exactly is the impact of the 1 year "expiry" of a federal or PNP profile? Can you just re-register with 1 year age disadvantage and that is it as your age will automatically be adjusted anyway?

4. What other options could be feasible for us to obtain PR (apart from entrepreneurship and business)? 

Thanks for hearing me out

 

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MaryJane

Hi @CDR

That was quite a post. Your understanding is so-so. Some parts seemed right and others not quite.

So I will try and clarify some of it....hopefully.

The first prize is to get PR through EE (Express Entry). EE is the pool that you are referring to. Most applicants create an EE profile. Based on the profile that you create, your CRS points are then calculated. You get CRS points for your age, level of education, work experience, language abilities and other criteria (like having a relative, having a job offer, nomination, etc) You will need the language test (IELTS normally) and educational assessment (WES normally) to create your profile. These are the backbone of your EE profile and so, you need to take the test and assessment before “activating” a profile.

The points are calculated as soon as your EE profile is active. The profile is valid for a year. If you do not get selected (drawn), then the profile expires after a year and you then have to create a new profile.

There are regular EE draws. These draws are based on EE scores (points). The higher your scores are, the better.

If you are “drawn” because you have the right level of CRS score, you have to provide proof to substantiate what you said on your EE profile. So if you said you have a university degree, your educational assessment must say that you have a degree equivalent to a Canadian one. If you said you have 5 years work experience working as a teacher, you need to validate this with work experience letters from the company you worked for. I believe you have 60 days to submit these proofs.

If your CRS points are too low, there are alternatives. EE is on the Federal level. PNP is on the Provincial level.

PNP allows applicants to apply to specific provinces. There are many streams in PNP so it’s very difficult to cover them all. Some require job offers, others don’t. Some may even require you to register on the province’s portal, where similar to EE, you are allocated points and then “drawn” for nomination. Most of the BC PNP streams require job offers, as far as I know. I’m not 100% on this and someone in the BC PNP program can correct me here.

Not entirely sure what a “manual” PNP is either, unless you are referring to a paper application (meaning you submit an application the old way, filling out forms and sending them via snail mail). I haven’t heard anyone doing this for a while but maybe I just haven’t encountered them more recently.

Aside from going through EE, or getting a PNP, the other options are more expensive (Business) or less permanent for now (like applying to get a work permit first before applying for PR after 2-3 years later). You will need arranged employment for the work permit route.

Hope this helps you out a bit.

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CDR

Hi MaryJane

Thank you very much for your detailed response. We will dig our heels into the process

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Carla111

Hi guys.

 

My husband has a degree and honorary degree in construction management.  Do I load and WES that as two seperate things, or can I only load the honorary degree?

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Kitcat
18 hours ago, Carla111 said:

Hi guys.

 

My husband has a degree and honorary degree in construction management.  Do I load and WES that as two seperate things, or can I only load the honorary degree?

You can load the bachelors and honours degrees as two separate degrees and WES should assess them as such.

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Carla111

But in the questions they ask for the highest level of education, how do I load both then?

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Kitcat
1 hour ago, Carla111 said:

But in the questions they ask for the highest level of education, how do I load both then?

Just to clarify - are you talking about when you submit your documents to WES to be assessed, or when you create/submit your EE profile? 

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Carla111

Hi

When I create an EE profile, can I list them seperate to get more points...which means then I need to do the WES assessment separately as well.

 

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NW18

You can have WES assess multiple degrees in one assessment. Matrix assessment not required. Post matrix submit all your transcripts as arequired.

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Carla111

Hi guys

 

My husband has an Honors degree in construction and I have a Bachelors degree. We are both 39 now and would like to immigrate to Canada asap. 

When calculating our score we come to about 415. 

My plan of action is as follows:

1.Get WES accreditation for education completed

2. Take English test in Jan

3. Start looking for work in Jan for my husband

Question 1  

How can we increase our score in an affordable manner

Question 2

What is the probability of getting a job offer, how long is the process

Question 3

Anything else I can do in the meantime to help

Edited by Dedré
...see comment below....

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Dedré

@Carla111, I merged your topic with this one, as MaryJane has done such a great job with answering it. If not, let us know, we can try again.

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