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Arries

I am an avid outdoorsman with a passion for being outside, hence why I studied geology to become an exploration geologist. First place would have been nature conservation or something in those lines, but the salary prospects where too low for me. No, not in the sense that I want to live a luxurious life, but rather the costs of medical aid, annuities, private school education for my children (one day, no kids yet), etc. So the wife and I are looking at Canada to have "a better life". I am 29 at the moment with my wife being 27.

Seeing that I will have to "restart" everything, I was toying with the idea of changing professions to something nature related. Is it even feasible? What are the opportunities? What is the Canadian equivalent to a game ranger?

Any and all opinions are welcome!

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Reibtseb

I was thinking the same...complete reboot and become a ranger or something, as I love nature and the protection thereof. Currently in control system engineering...and to be honest, I won't miss it at all.

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Nettie
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The first thing that comes to mind is a Cowboy. Perhaps look at Alberta or alternatively Texas?

What about a career in zoology? Close to being outdoors but warm.

There's also veterinary technician.

Professional Hunter would probably be seasonal.

I think exploration and nature preservation would be run by the government and then you run into the French requirement for jobs.

Just my 2c. I haven't researched it.

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IreneBez

@Arries and @Reibtseb, us three can go hug trees in Canada together!! I was also thinking of trying to change careers when I get to Canada and hopefully find something in Nature Conservation or similar.  I am currently in the renewable energy sector.

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Jules

Nature conservation would be an example of outdoor work. Most municipalities have a conservation department. The further north you go the conservation areas become more rural and "wild" 

So you can work for Parks Canada or municipal conservation department and work in a fairly suburban setting (green belt area in the middle of surburbia) or you could be up far north where it is genuinely wild and untamed. 

 

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Reibtseb
57 minutes ago, IreneBez said:

@Arries and @Reibtseb, us three can go hug trees in Canada together!! I was also thinking of trying to change careers when I get to Canada and hopefully find something in Nature Conservation or similar.  I am currently in the renewable energy sector.

Sounds great!

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Cathy K

For some earning capacity while finding your feet, you can try tree planting.

http://www.replant.ca/applying_for_a_job.pdf

Also look at this website:   https://careers.workopolis.com/advice/nine-high-paying-outdoor-jobs/

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IreneBez
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Thanks for the info @Cathy K and @Jules!

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K&U

@Arries and @Reibtseb - so, how is the soul searching going? Figured something out yet?

I studied Zoology and have been working in Conservation/Environmental Sector in SA for a while now. When going over to Canada, I am keen to stay in the field of Conservation/Environmental management...whether it is feasible or not, I will have to figure out.

Planning on landing in March next year - so will start job hunting closer to the time.

 

I have however done some research and have found some websites and organisations that could be a start.....if you are keen, I am happy to share what I have learnt so  far.

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IreneBez
33 minutes ago, K&U said:

@Arries and @Reibtseb - so, how is the soul searching going? Figured something out yet?

I studied Zoology and have been working in Conservation/Environmental Sector in SA for a while now. When going over to Canada, I am keen to stay in the field of Conservation/Environmental management...whether it is feasible or not, I will have to figure out.

Planning on landing in March next year - so will start job hunting closer to the time.

 

I have however done some research and have found some websites and organisations that could be a start.....if you are keen, I am happy to share what I have learnt so  far.

Hi @K&U, please will you share with me the info that you have found? I will really appreciate it!

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Reibtseb
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@K&U Please share. I have recently received PPR so have slowly began looking at immediate options, haven't found much yet. Not been looking THAT hard though :P

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CandD

@K&U can you also please share that info with us?  

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SuzieQ

us too 😬

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K&U

@IreneBez, @Reibtseb, @CandD, @SuzieQ

Firstly, where are you guys heading? Looking at adverts I have seen that Ontario posts the most adverts, then BC. Quebec is maybe third and then the rest seems a bit quiet, probably Alberta next.....I am planning on heading to the Maritimes - but jobs there seem limited.

I have found a tonne of websites and facebook groups that do some amazing work (conservation, invasive species management are my two areas of focus). And then there are of course a stack of jobs in the consulting sector - not of interest to me though. So if you let me know which areas you are looking at going to, I can maybe dig up a few of the websites/Faceook sites I have come across.

General job websites include: Stopdodo (https://www.environmentjobs.com/) - they post internationally, but sometimes have Canadian jobs

https://www.goodwork.ca/

Subscribe to their newsletter and you get the jobs sent yo you - here they have anything from highly specialised jobs to Admin for conservation organisation, volunteer, all kinds of eco-jobs, including sustainable farming, etc. Probably currently my first point of call currently to gauge what the market is doing

http://www.workcabin.ca/jobs/

Not as many jobs on here, but still good to see what is out there - they have a Facebook page too. Also training etc.

http://www.eco.ca/viewjobs/

They seem to focus a bit more on consulting, but have a lot of job adverts on there too, plus they have training and webinars online - some free, some not.

 

Explore these sites, and through these sites you will also see who are the big players in the environmental sector in the province you want to go to. And if you find anything cool for the Maritimes - please send it on to me!!! :P

 

Secondly, this is what an ex-colleague of mine wrote to me a while back. She works in London Ontario, but she has a PhD. She struggled to find work for quite some time, and these are some of the lessons she learnt:

" I work for the Nature Conservancy of Canada (for almost 9 years now). One good way to get in the door with them is to apply for a summer internship, but also keep an eye on our website in general to get a sense of what comes along: http://www.natureconservancy.ca/en/who-we-are/work-with-us/

I have found that, in general in the conservation sector here, people are looking at your experience and skills first, and academic qualifications second. So although whatever educational background you have is important, successful applicants tend to have "sold" the skills they acquired in close relation to the job description. So once I learned to sell my phd as an exercise in time management, volunteer management, data collection and management, and communication, things went better! Also, I had no experience in Canada at all when I started, so I really pushed the fact that I had transferable skills, and that I had worked in several different ecosystems elsewhere in the world, and that I could probably work it out.

Depending on what you apply for, you'll want to develop some sections of your CV accordingly, but also do so in a cover letter. For my sort of job/ my previous job, being able to demonstrate experience with different taxa (birds/ plants/ mammals, rather than just one of those, for example) is good. We do a lot of invasive species work here - mostly plants, and are starting to do a bit more beyond just the lands we own.

There are also several volunteer opportunities which, if you end up here without work and are in a position to do them, are valuable to gain and demonstrate local experience. We run a conservation volunteers program - also available via our website. There are also a lot of smaller land trusts in Ontario, and in some other provinces, with volunteer opportunities. In London here, there is the Thames Talbot Land Trust for example: http://www.thamestalbotlandtrust.ca/"
 
 
And lastly, remember that environmental jobs can be very seasonal in Canada. So there are tonnes of openings for the summer, but not so much for the winter. But a summer job/summer volunteer position might be a good entry point....well, at least that is what I am hoping for :D
Happy to share more if you have any further questions, comments or if you give me a bit of info on what you want to do.
 
But just note: this is my own research and experience, I am by no means an expert! Just sharing my experience so far!
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Reibtseb

Thanks @K&U! I'm looking at BC or ON. Most likely BC, it's what made me want to go to CA initially. I'll have a look at the links. Wonder whether my engineering background will come in handy, or hold me back... :rolleyes:

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K&U

@Reibtseb - Engineering should be of great benefit. There are a lot of engineering jobs in the environmental sector, look at env engineering, there is always a need. And plenty of consultants make use of env engineers.

If you google environmental & BC you should find quite few sites and organisations. And you will figure out who the big players are and who offers what jobs.

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IreneBez

Thank you very much @K&U!! I will look at all the links you provided.  I'm more in the overall environmental management field.  I currently work for an independent power producer in the development, construction and operation of renewable energy facilities.  I'm responsible for overseeing the EIAs and all the environmental permitting for new developments as well as environmental compliance during construction and operational phases.  We're heading to Ontario, will probably end up in Toronto because that's where the work is for my husband.  I'll see, maybe I will sign up for some volunteer work if my husband lands a job fairly quickly.  I have made a list of all the Canadian energy companies in Canada, both utilities and renewable developers.  I will start reaching out to all of them when I have PR.

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Reibtseb
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23 minutes ago, IreneBez said:

Thank you very much @K&U!! I will look at all the links you provided.  I'm more in the overall environmental management field.  I currently work for an independent power producer in the development, construction and operation of renewable energy facilities.  I'm responsible for overseeing the EIAs and all the environmental permitting for new developments as well as environmental compliance during construction and operational phases.  We're heading to Ontario, will probably end up in Toronto because that's where the work is for my husband.  I'll see, maybe I will sign up for some volunteer work if my husband lands a job fairly quickly.  I have made a list of all the Canadian energy companies in Canada, both utilities and renewable developers.  I will start reaching out to all of them when I have PR.

Hi @IreneBez, care to share that list? Would be MUCH appreciated :)

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K&U

Hi @IreneBez,

Have a look at https://trca.ca/

They have loads of cool job opportunities, volunteering and training. I have seen some really cool things come from their side. I have seen several posts in the Toronto area, and as said, Ontario seems to be very big in the environmental sector.

For finding a job, that would have been my first choice, but unfortunately they do not allow Staffie/Pitbull crosses, so we cannot take our furbaby there!

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IreneBez
10 minutes ago, Reibtseb said:

Hi @IreneBez, care to share that list? Would be MUCH appreciated :)

Hey @Reibtseb, inbox me your e-mail address.

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IreneBez
10 minutes ago, K&U said:

Hi @IreneBez,

Have a look at https://trca.ca/

They have loads of cool job opportunities, volunteering and training. I have seen some really cool things come from their side. I have seen several posts in the Toronto area, and as said, Ontario seems to be very big in the environmental sector.

For finding a job, that would have been my first choice, but unfortunately they do not allow Staffie/Pitbull crosses, so we cannot take our furbaby there!

Thanks @K&U, I will have a look! I'm glad you love your furbaby so much that you will settle somewhere where he/she can go! Much respect!!

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Sarika

Hi @IreneBez I'm so excited to have finally found someone else on the forum who is in env management. Our company specialises in waste management but we also do EIA's for general construction. I have been trolling alot of these above websites to keep track of the job market in the environmental field. I may consider doing the PAIE thing in Ontario. But I still have a long way to go in the process.  

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IreneBez

Haha @Sarika no I'm happy there is someone else on the forum in the env management field! Lol! I asked on the FB page a few weeks ago and no-one responded, was getting worried for a moment!  I'm also going to look at the PAIE programme, but I was also considering doing short online courses in the enviro regulations of Canada before heading over, just to be familiar with the Canadian equivalent of our NEMA for example. Good luck with the rest of the process and for your IELTS!

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K&U

I have only found the PAIE for/in Ontario. Any ideas if any other provinces also offer this? Maritimes? Read up on PAIE a while back and do not recall all the details anymore. Please can you send me some info/give me a summary of this?

@IreneBez - did not see the FB post - but also, because no one here yet knows we are moving, I am not yet posting on the FB page....have to remain undercover for a few more weeks!

3 hours ago, IreneBez said:

I was also considering doing short online courses in the enviro regulations of Canada before heading over, just to be familiar with the Canadian equivalent of our NEMA for example

Have you found any courses yet? I have not had much time at looking for courses.

My experience lies in hands on conservation, invasive species management, env management plans, etc and lately I play more of a project management, advisory role, giving input into policy, planning, etc. But want to get back to getting my hands dirty.....less stress :P

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Nelline
6 hours ago, K&U said:

Hi @IreneBez,

Have a look at https://trca.ca/

They have loads of cool job opportunities, volunteering and training. I have seen some really cool things come from their side. I have seen several posts in the Toronto area, and as said, Ontario seems to be very big in the environmental sector.

For finding a job, that would have been my first choice, but unfortunately they do not allow Staffie/Pitbull crosses, so we cannot take our furbaby there!

I wouldn't let the pitbull ban worry me too much, depending on where you live. Some areas are more "pro-ban" than others - London ON for example, is one area to avoid. I have a few contacts on the "anti-ban" committee / organization and they're very clued up on which areas to avoid. We took our two staffies over with us when we came to Canada and happily lived in Ottawa for nearly 2 years. Having said that, the pitbull ban and because we hate all kinds of BSL so much, was one of the reasons why we left ON for another Province.

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