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Hi All. My wife is looking to study in a totally new field in while in Canada, but the universities look ridiculously expensive... I have two questions:

1. Is there a distance learning university (like UNISA) in Canada that has lower study rates?

2. Would it be cost effective to do a Bachelors degree through UNISA, have it assessed by WES and then only do an 'honours' level degree at a Canadian university? Thus paying UNISA rates for years 1,2 and 3 and only Canadian rates for year 4.

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MaryJane

Most institution would've some kind of online presence. The most popular one that I've heard of being mentioned here on the forum is Athabasca University (http://www.athabascau.ca)

@Sideline has some great advice with regards studying in Rands etc.

On August 27, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Sideline said:

Nope, you don't need a visa to do online courses. We did one while in SA at a Canadian university. As long as you have some type of legal status to live in Canada, ie WP, PR, PNP etc you can study at the physical campus. The type of rights you have will determine what you pay of course. Read above what was posted about local/resident vs international students.

As for your thinking on studying in rands (UNISA) and earning dollars, remember something you might not be aware of

Canadians will asses your international studies/degrees (for a good fee of course) and will give you an "equivalent to" whatever in Canada. What they won't tell you is that it means absolutely sh1t in Canada. You will most likely be told to redo almost all, if not everything in Canadian terms. Canadians (in general) just don't trust international studies/education. It's that "Canadian experience" term they throw around. Unless you have a very specialized skill your international studies/degrees mean nothing here. Most disciplines are highly regulated and you need certain criteria to get the certificate to do "x" in Canada.

You can read elsewhere about our example. The short version : 15 plus years in SA in the legal field, a specialist in some areas. A senior legal professional with numerous published works. In Canada, it was " oh OK, that's really nice. To be a lawyer here please go redo these 15 courses and write exams. Then you will spend 3 years as a junior apprentice to gain experience. When that's done you can be a lawyer". In essence they said we had just wasted 15 years of life being in law elsewhere. Here in Canada you are nobody until you have "Canadian experience".

Thankfully we had other career options and degrees/experience to fall back on. If you don't you might need to choose to change careers or take a few step down your career ladder and rebuild it again.

It was a frustrating experience to start with, but we did learn to adapt and get into the Canadian mindset.

http://www.sacanada.org/topic/18098-its-almost-at-the-end-and-starting-over-time/page-2

you can read about it here

 

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:P ha ha ha.  MJ beat me to it,  as I was going to post the exact same info.  

Athabasca University seems very popular.  They are based in Alberta. However please note that their fees vary based on if you live in Alberta, if you live in another province,  if you are a Canadian permanent resident and lastly if you are a foreigner (i.e. in Canada not as a permanent resident) 

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AnelleR2008

I was also going to mention Athabasca University and mention that fees are dependent on where you live.  Another important thing to note:   Not all universities accept Athabasca's credits (although most do) if you are going to transfer at a later stage.

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Sideline
18 hours ago, Andre1 said:

Hi All. My wife is looking to study in a totally new field in while in Canada, but the universities look ridiculously expensive... I have two questions:

1. Is there a distance learning university (like UNISA) in Canada that has lower study rates?

2. Would it be cost effective to do a Bachelors degree through UNISA, have it assessed by WES and then only do an 'honours' level degree at a Canadian university? Thus paying UNISA rates for years 1,2 and 3 and only Canadian rates for year 4.

Canada does not have an 'honours type of degree'.

in Canada you get a 3 or 4 year degree and then you do an additional upgraded or extended degree. This is in essence a completely new 3 or 4 year degree. You do however now get credit for the years you did on the previous degree. So if you did. 3 year degree and the new one is a 4 year in the same field of study, you get as much credit as possible to then shorten the course work on the new degree.

At the end of it you get 1 degree, the same degree but broken into a 3 year and a 4 year degree. Basically the same thing as an hounouts degree but a different term or way of doing it.

I wrote this a while ago in another topic 

 

 

Also an Honours degree in SA is not the same as an honours degree in Canada. Technically an honours degree does not exist in Canada the same way it does in SA. In SA a BA degree can/is 4 years. In Canada it's 3 years and the "hounours" section an additional 1 year, thus making it the 4 years in SA.

Thus in SA you feel you have 2 degrees, in Canada you have a "single" degree (in the same field) BUT it's at a higher level of 4 years (above the usual 3 year degree in Canada).

Like I said above, Canada is a very different beast to understand, especially in the education side. The courses/degrees here are really different from both structure and course work.

Read here

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor%27s_degree (scroll down and see SA and Canada links :) )

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Sideline

 

As a note, that Canadian equivilent - Masters Degree. This is where people make a BIG mistake. ALL WES have done is said that based on the course material and degree subjects etc, you have a Masters degree that is equivilent to a Canadian degree. So HAD YOU STUDIED IN CANADA the degree is at a similar level. 

IT IS NOT A CANADIAN RECOGNIZED DEGREE. This is a VERY VERY NB!! Thing to understand. Especially if you are in a regulated profession or trade that requires certification and membership. Even though you have a Masters Degree, it does not mean it will be accepted in Canada. They are just saying that you did enough work and the subjects were sufficient to be like the Canadian course, but again it IS NOT CANADIAN.

Just to clarify that for everyone.

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Druce

Hi @Sideline, very helpful information. Guess we assume too quickly;)

 

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spanner

Just to let you know, university tuition in Quebec is much cheaper than the rest of the country. Montreal has two English universities. One of them is Mcgill which is something like the 25th best university on earth. 

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On 24/02/2016 at 6:19 AM, Andre1 said:

1. Is there a distance learning university (like UNISA) in Canada that has lower study rates?

@Andre1 unfortunately not! This is the reason; http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/low-loonie-international-students-eye-reduced-price-education-in-canada-1.2747589 . International students are a multi billion dollar business for Canada annually. Once you arrive in Canada with PR those rate drops.

On 24/02/2016 at 6:19 AM, Andre1 said:

2. Would it be cost effective to do a Bachelors degree through UNISA, have it assessed by WES and then only do an 'honours' level degree at a Canadian university? Thus paying UNISA rates for years 1,2 and 3 and only Canadian rates for year 4.

If you have the time before you leave South Africa to complete a recognised degree / diploma / course  through UNISA, why not? Rather save that money for your eventual arrival in Canada; you going to need it. Most educated / qualified South Africans arriving in Canada eventually find reasonably good jobs and work their way up. You only have to look at a few of our  fellow SACanada forumites. 

Friend's son did his BSc.Physio at Stellenbosch, Canadian university rates were way too high. He will eventually do a few bridging courses in Canada. Saved plenty of CAD.

 All the best with whatever you decide!

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